#also the whole 'men are horrible' and other shit is terf rhetoric

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Yeah you may be queer, but are you normal about bisexuals?

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Crybullying a trans woman into fucking hospital because she wrote a complicated work about trans fem hurt and insecurities and how those get weaponized in a military industrial world which he was too stupid to understand is actually the latest in a long line of Ana Mardoll being a transmisogynist.  And being stupid as well, but the fact that Ana is really fantastically stupid for someone who prides himself on being the smartest specialist thinker on Earth* is not really relevant to this rant. (Warning: rant is in bad English but I don’t care).

Ana is and has always been an “I would never!!!! How dare you hurt me this way!!!! I am a TERF-hating defender of trans womankind!” transmisogynist AND he is still somehow managing to get a contingent of uwus being like “oh poor babu. He is sad and disabled and trans, you cannot bully him for working at a weapons contractor for 15 years even if he DID spend that entire time lecturing everyone else about the horrible REAL VIOLENCE** they were doing by things such as... saying cishet because it might make a cis straight demiromantic invalid and so in order to stop doing VIOLENCE WITH OUR WORDS we should instead say “unqueer”***... like some kind of one-very-stupid-person panopticon tower.”  Actually, “still somehow get a contingent” is redundant. That literally IS the transmisogyny. People will bully the shit out of a trans woman for the slightest thing, especially if she has something complicated to say and doesn’t want to spoonfeed it to escapist babies like Ana “reading is ableist” Mardoll. But they will handhold and defend escapist babies like Ana “French chef stereotypes are dehumanizing racism” Mardoll specifically because they’re NOT trans women. Anyway, since I have hated his work for a loooooong time, I would just like to say that I remember Ana: 

- before he settled on his boy identity, he ID’d for a long time as a “trans woman” and “trans femme” - as in, he was an AFAB person who still felt like a woman, but also felt trans. He did this and did this over again until, according to him, literally told to stop by transfem friends.  - CONSTANTLY centered/centers himself in ALL trans issues, saying things like “TERFS hate trans people like me.” Which like, no, sorry. Yes, TERF shit impacts all trans people. Yes, they do say horrible, invalidating, aimed-at-legislative-restriction things about afab trans people. But their rhetoric about that is about “saving poor misguided girls”. TERFS HATE TRANS WOMEN very specifically. The vitriol, the nastiness, the emailing people’s bosses to out them, making “feminist” websites with photos calling them predators... that’s all for trans women, baby.  - Look, maybe you think this isn’t so bad, but I think it’s self-victimizing shit and I feel like his whole thing of constantly feeling “invalid” and “not queer enough” and other such horseshit means he’s incapable of putting his feelings aside to focus on the material needs of our community.  - Ana is king of tenderqueer shit. You know, being a soft boy baby at age 40+ or whatever. More thoughtful people than I have written a lot about how tenderizing transness to the extent people who do has a lot of run-on effects, including making trans men afraid of the effects of gender affirming care such as hormones; being really racist because being “uwu goblin gender” is really... not always as accessible to anyone who isn’t white; being TRANSMISOGYNISTIC as is relevant here. Fetishizing being a soft smol bean and hating anything hard or critical or big or strong... it’s not a 1:1 but it often has the effect of weaponizing being afab and framing trans women as unwelcome and scary once again, and I think we can see that in how Ana does his thing...   - In that holy shit crybullying itself (what a perfect word for the exact crazy-making wobbling jelly thing he does) being so SAD and SCARED and HURT like a poor little creature who didn’t MEAN to say anything bad he just is not NEUROTYPICAL while a BIG MEAN HURTFUL ELITIST ABLEIST trans woman has made you feel INVALID and TRIGGERED is such a fucking example of this.  Man, I have like years of examples of Ana just being a complete jello-cube of a person but I’ll just vent this here and cease.  * GOD remember when he wrote about how NLOG as a concept should not be criticized because some girls actually weren’t like other girls, such as fat, queer, and disabled girls. Because no girl has ever been fat, queer, or disabled of course. And all of those “other girls” are just a hive mind of skinny straight ablebodiedness. Top feminist analysis, Ana “the little mermaid is an otherkin allegory” Mardoll. 

** HE. WORKS. FOR. LOCKHEED. MARTIN. and HAS. DONE. SINCE. THE BUSH. ADMINISTRATION.

*** Actual example. 

[system-of-a-feather]

Have you considered that the whole Super straight/bi/lesbian/gay thing came about specifically because y'all are so quick to call people transphobic? I don't understand why supporters of trans rights are so interested in whether or not people are willing to date trans people.

Like, if that's your biggest problem, you're doing well. Genuinely, what is this oppression trans ppl face if the biggest concern is getting a date? And if someone doesn't want to date a trans person, why, WHY would y'all wanna pressure them into it? What does that do for you? Isn't it dangerous for the trans person to pursue the issue once they've been turned down? Why are you encouraging them to be in a place of danger? Who cares if some people don't want to date trans people? If they're as oppressed as y'all say, that is literally the least of their concern.

I absolutely fully agree with that. It absolutely isn’t an okay thing to do and people aren’t transphobic for not wanting to date or be with a trans person. I have absolutely nothing against that.

What *does* bother me is how people go about using the “trans people are mad that we won’t date them” to straw man that most people that say that follow it up with saying “trans men aren’t real men” or combine it with “I only want to date real and natural men” which is inherently transphobic.

I fully support anyone who is just not interested in dating trans people. That’s fine, and I really don’t care. We are a blog of people who have been traumatized, abused, and sexually abused and forced upon. We would never put that upon anyone else. Our blog is first and foremost about trauma and consent and harassments is absolute big “N-O”s for us

If the majority of the people who said they didn’t want to date trans people didn’t start using “real” women and men lines, then I would have no issue with being “super straight” or “super lesbian”.

Similarly to you assuming everyone who is against it cares about if you can get a date or not and is upset about it, we are forced to assume everyone who thinks it is about that is going to use and talk like a transphobe / TERF and de-legitimize their gender identity. Most of the shit talking and memes in the Super Straight tags are dissing “new” gender labels like nonbinary or whatever and trans identities and all that, so don’t act as if this is all about predatory trans behavior and not about people being disgustingly transphobic.

If your tag and movement was solely about addressing toxic behavior in the trans community that is predatory, I would be standing with you and in support, but instead a large majority of the people in your “movement” take it as an opportunity to diss, disrespect, and let blatant transphobic / TERF rhetoric spew disgustingly on your floor and I just can’t stand for that.

As for the Trans community, our largest issue **isnt** getting a fucking date. It has never fucking been getting a date and if you really think that is the largest issue, god are you blind and deaf. 

I think the largest issue would be the overall stigma hatred and disgust many people in society hold towards people who are trans. There are also all the people who regularly threaten violence and state that they would kick the head in of anyone who they saw if they were trans or saw “a man in a dress.” There are people thinking people who are trans are secretly just pedophiles that want to fondle children. There are people who murder people for being trans. There are people who just regularly bully and make fun of people or completely cut ties with people because they are trans. There are people assaulting - physically and sexually - people who are trans just for being trans.

“In 2009, 17 percent of all reported violent hate crimes against LGBTQ people were directed against those who identified themselves as transgender, with most (11 percent of all hate crimes) identifying as transgender women.8 The remainder identified as transgender men, genderqueer, gender questioning, or intersex.” - x

“People may assume that being visibly transgender or having a transgender history is a direct cause of sexual assault. There is some truth to this: A number of murders of transgender people (particularly transgender women of color) have taken place when new sexual partners "discover" their sexual partners were assigned male at birth and/or have a penis. “ - x

I promise you, almost any of the bigotry and exclusion that people who are lesbian, bi, and/or gay experience, people who are trans also experience, but they also get it from people who are lesbian, bi, and gay.

If you want to have a discussion about the predatory nature of some people who use being trans as a means to attack and pressure people into sex or a relationship, we would be more than glad to sit down and talk about that. It is a huge problem and a disgusting one. 

If you are trans and you get rejected and then use your trans identity to try to pity and victim cry yourself a date or sex, then you are scum and worse than any transphobe out there. You don’t deserve to look at this blog or group yourself with us. Don’t be a fucking predator.

If you are one of those people, lick my boot and cry because fuck you. 

I’m not against “supers” because I think they have a right to your body. I’m against “supers” because they parade behind “I don’t like the predatory behavior!!” to be transphobic.

I understand that if some of your have been pressured into shit like this, it might be a trauma response and I understand that. I’m not actually mad at you for that because I very much understand how that works. We have been there before and have generalized horribly, but please do know a large majority of the community is not just about sexuality and who they will date. We aren’t predators. We are just people and most of us just will handle rejection like a normal god damn person. Please don’t generalize us with abusers because of a negative experience you or someone you know might have experienced.

A lot of people who are trans are far more busy and concerned with how having to choose between who they actually are and living in a constant lie to themselves and others, and being their true self and risking to upturn their entire life, loose many acquaintances, and naturally have a target on your back if you aren’t living in an area that is considerably tolerant and even then its still a risk. I don’t know where you got that getting a date is the largest issue about being trans because it never was and never is.

Please, take some time to really try to listen to us and our experiences and please don’t immediately group all trans people in with abusive people. A lot of us really don’t care about getting in people’s pants and most of it is really just about trying to live and be ourselves.

I understand the experiences are horrible and anyone who puts that pressure is horrible, but don’t let that be an excuse to spread rhetoric and hate on a group that already has an insanely high suicide rate. 

People aren’t killing themselves because they aren’t getting dates. They are killing themselves because being trans is hard and insanely difficult. Dating someone is a speck of sand in a desert.

Please don’t use that straw man on us and please don’t use it to paint all trans people as bad and worthy of hate.

Thank you.

-Ray (Gatekeeper)

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So not to have opinions or anything but the way "wombyn" and TERFs tie menstruation to femininity and "positivity" and "natural beauty" fucking sucks because

1) only a quarter of the population menstruates, when half the population is made up of women, so whether a person menstruates or not is already a fucking horrible predictor of gender. By equating a bodily function to a gender you exclude LITERALLY HALF of your """own people""", you fuckwits. There are people that feel SHAME because they dont bleed, cramp, or ruin their clothes monthly. Which brings me to

2) PERIODS FUCKING SUCK. They are rare among mammals, because they suck. There is absolutely no reason menstruating individuals... need to do so. Scientists think it literally poses no advantage. It sucks! And if more people with menstrual cycles had been in the sciences historically, I dont think women would HAVE to normalize periods now, because we would have recognized its pointlessness long ago and made menstruation a choice, so the uterus only prepped for pregnancy when, oh I don't know, its owner wanted to be pregnant? Wild thought, I know. It's a process that basically evolved pointlessly in a small handful of mammal species and causes people anguish. The fact that we don't see the monthly cyclic process of bleeding and pain as a societal issue traces back to patriarchal structures in healthcare and research.

3) the inherent beauty of bleeding out your vagina monthly is something that literally doesnt exist. It's a sign of one of the human body's worst-case structures in comparison with other species. Our child-making shit is bad, folks! Our babies come out way too soon for most of their bodies because our hips arent big enough to shove out developed brains! The whole process of making another human is beautiful, I can't deny that, but menstruation isn't inherent to the process of sexual reproduction in the majority of animals and in all honesty the whole thing is pretty ineffectual due to our jank-ass anatomy.

4) it's just gross. Plain and simple. For the love of all things holy stop saving your menstrual blood as a statement. If I have to read about one more radical feminist artist saving bloody cloths to make an art piece that smells like rotten meat or knitting using yarn she shoved into her vagina during her period I am going to vomit. It's still a biohazard, its still flesh, it can still go rotten over time, it's not clean and beautiful, it's an organ lining. And yes, both previous examples are real.

5) Even if you are a cis woman who doesn't mind the process, that doesnt mean you're feminine. Like, my God, I thought that your bodies didn't define your personality or your presentation, and that trans people are just gender nonconforming or whatever the garbage of the week is that you're serving, but the art i keep seeing of flowers coming out of your crotch really says otherwise.

6) Praising a process as shitty and pointless as complete menstruation is dishonest and done purely to attempt to exclude individuals from some in-group (being 'female') for no logical reason (to justify hatred and violence towards 'infiltrators'). If you're bad at reading, heres a summation: Saying periods are feminine and beautiful is not only transphobic rhetoric. The only two groups of people it doesn't hurt are cis men and healthy cis women of reproductive age.

What we should be doing is funding research into reproductive anatomy, physiology, and function. We should be normalizing menstruation for young people and letting them know that just because your body is going through this change doesnt mean you have to be an adult now, or that it signifies anything besides the fact that you're now in your late childhood/early teens and were born with your particular anatomy. We should be alleviating the problems a quarter of the world's population goes through related to our jank anatomy, including severe pain and numerous hormonal and mood disorders. We should be making sure working class, poor, and homeless people have access to menstrual hygiene products such as pads, tampons, and liners. There are so many better ways to help your community that don't involve rampant exclusion, transphobia, and artistic biohazards.

Statistically speaking, there are more women that DON'T menstruate than women who do. And there are men that menstruate. There are even people that arent men or women, who also menstruate. Any person that equates menstruation and womanhood is a dumbass, a bigot, or both.

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CW for mentions of sexual harassment/assault:

Twitter really has become the new Tumblr huh? I only say this because I haven't really seen the discourse over bi/pan lesbians hit here. Maybe it's because I follow less people and the people I do follow don't care/or understand it's harmful rhetoric.

If anyone who follows me is against the term would you be willing to explain any valid points as to why its bad because ALL of the ones I've seen are just horribly bad or are a revival of the old "gold star lesbian" shit.

One of the main points that I've seen getting parroted and such by Lesbians is "lesbians don't like men and the term forces men onto lesbians!!!"

Now there are a couple reasons why this is an insidious point.

This talking point is spreading false info in that all bi, mspec's have to be attracted to men or otherwise they aren't bi. I thought we were past the whole "bi people are attracted to men/women" definition crap but I guess not. The Bi community overall accepts and prefers the definition of "attracted to 2 or more genders." So already just based off of this your point is not only wrong but ignorant and even at worst biphobic.

Another reason this is insidious is because this literally was a talking point that was used VERY much by terfs & terf lesbians against trans women. Who exactly is counted as a man by your criteria? Maybe you say you include trans women and non-binary individuals but what about those who do identify with man-hood/masculinity? What about those whose gender and sexuality isnt set in stone and changes? What about butch trans and enbies? Whose criteria are we exactly following and why is it okay to gatekeep in this way when it literally identical to all other gatekeeping tactics and rhetoric that's been used in the past? This stuff hurts everyone who doesn't fit neatly into a box and only benefits those who want to be palatable to Cisgender heterosexual allos.

The other reasons this point sucks ass because it's literally a victim blaming narrative. Why does the blame of predatory men lie on a label and NOT on the men??? Also... this point whether intentionally or not makes it out to seem like anyone who holds attraction to men is to blame for being harassed and assaulted by them and that is just awful especially considering Bisexual and probably any other mspec people have HIGHER rates of sexual harassment/assault then Lesbian or Gay people. So are you saying because of who we are/our sexuality we should expect it? Also that somehow a label will protect you from cis men is laughable... I bet some of the same people who are saying this now have in the past said or liked something thats complained about men still hitting on them despite the fact that they told them they were a Lesbian. Entitled men DO NOT care what your sexuality is, if they perceive you as a women then the will feel they are entitled to you.

One thing that also isn't 100% relevant is I also see Lesbians complaining about the label because they don't want outsiders invading it and "why can't we have something to ourselves." I mean... why are y'all so obsessed on the idea of sepereating y'all's community from anyone else? I don't think any other sexuality does this. Gay has LITERALLY become an umbrella term for almost anyone, Bi is an umbrella term, Trans is an umbrella term, these communities already share spaces with other identities not 100% like them so why are y'all so against sharing your space with others? What exactly makes us so different that you can't stand to share a space with bi and non-binary (that don't fit your standards) people?

This all really is just a revival of the same shit that happened back in the day, history repeats itself if you don't learn from it and this is just a great example of that.

Edit: oh shit I forgot one point but real quickly let me clarify why I said "revival of gold star lesbian rhetoric." Whether these Lesbians want to admit it or not they ARE attacking their own community with this bullshit, the one they are specifically claiming they're trying to protect who only identify as Lesbian. There are probably already Lesbians who use the label but DO feel attraction to men whether it had been once in the past or an occasional bleep in their life that they don't think it relevant and may or may not have slept with men. Do these Lesbians still get to use the label and be in the community? What if their attraction isn't due to comphet, what if they don't regret sleeping with the men they did? Do they still count now???

Either way you try to slice and dice this rhetoric, I've found none of it makes sense and only will do more harm then good.